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		<title>Comment on Banning the Burqa Would be an Affront to our Heritage by Stephen Oliver</title>
		<link>http://www.thinkpolitics.co.uk/blog/2010/01/26/banning-the-burqa-would-be-an-affront-to-our-heritage/comment-page-1/#comment-1244</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul: It&#039;s a tough call.  I think we have a balance right: We don&#039;t like it, we say we don&#039;t like it, but they are free to exercise their choice.  In fact the number of women who wear the full burqa in the UK is very limited, and many of those are not UK citizens.  

It&#039;s logical to extend the argument into schools, but then you overlap other questions.  I am personally in favour of faith schools (see http://stephenoliver.me/2010/01/18/academies-and-independent-schools-the-missing-link/).  At least my children go to independent CoE schools.  I understand the arguments for single sex schools, at least for some students.  

Choice of faith setting has to be a parental prerogative.  We&#039;re just lucky that &quot;our&quot; faith is open, tolerant and seeks reconciliation - my children learn more about Judaism and Islam in their CoE school than I ever learnt in the state sector.  I fear that an Islamic school might not teach the same message, but that may be prejudice.  

I don&#039;t know what the answer is.  There is clearly a line that we don&#039;t want to cross in terms of gender discrimination.  The subjugation of women in many Islamic countries (which has little to do with Islam, by the way) is a model we cannot tolerate here.  The question is whether legislating on the burqa would actually move us closer to achieving our aims.  I suspect wouldn&#039;t and might in fact move us further away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul: It&#8217;s a tough call.  I think we have a balance right: We don&#8217;t like it, we say we don&#8217;t like it, but they are free to exercise their choice.  In fact the number of women who wear the full burqa in the UK is very limited, and many of those are not UK citizens.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s logical to extend the argument into schools, but then you overlap other questions.  I am personally in favour of faith schools (see <a href="http://stephenoliver.me/2010/01/18/academies-and-independent-schools-the-missing-link/)" rel="nofollow">http://stephenoliver.me/2010/01/18/academies-and-independent-schools-the-missing-link/)</a>.  At least my children go to independent CoE schools.  I understand the arguments for single sex schools, at least for some students.  </p>
<p>Choice of faith setting has to be a parental prerogative.  We&#8217;re just lucky that &#8220;our&#8221; faith is open, tolerant and seeks reconciliation &#8211; my children learn more about Judaism and Islam in their CoE school than I ever learnt in the state sector.  I fear that an Islamic school might not teach the same message, but that may be prejudice.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what the answer is.  There is clearly a line that we don&#8217;t want to cross in terms of gender discrimination.  The subjugation of women in many Islamic countries (which has little to do with Islam, by the way) is a model we cannot tolerate here.  The question is whether legislating on the burqa would actually move us closer to achieving our aims.  I suspect wouldn&#8217;t and might in fact move us further away.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Underestimating Swing in the Marginal Seats by eddie rodgers</title>
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		<dc:creator>eddie rodgers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People need to believe that the future has promise and hope.In marginals the candidate/party that articulates this the best will win.This is harder for tired Govt to pull off.Even harder without fresh leadership</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People need to believe that the future has promise and hope.In marginals the candidate/party that articulates this the best will win.This is harder for tired Govt to pull off.Even harder without fresh leadership</p>
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		<title>Comment on Banning the Burqa Would be an Affront to our Heritage by PaulV</title>
		<link>http://www.thinkpolitics.co.uk/blog/2010/01/26/banning-the-burqa-would-be-an-affront-to-our-heritage/comment-page-1/#comment-1168</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stephen - I think one liberal ideal is going to have to take a back seat in the argument. For me, the emancipation of women is the key issue. Free women and you free the society/culture. The French have drawn a line in the sand over the burka. Good for us for not following suit, but what if Muslims demand faith schools? Then separate faith schools for boys and girls? Then home schooling for girls... you can see where this is heading. The bedrock of Islamic society is the separation and subjugation of women. At what point do we draw the line?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stephen &#8211; I think one liberal ideal is going to have to take a back seat in the argument. For me, the emancipation of women is the key issue. Free women and you free the society/culture. The French have drawn a line in the sand over the burka. Good for us for not following suit, but what if Muslims demand faith schools? Then separate faith schools for boys and girls? Then home schooling for girls&#8230; you can see where this is heading. The bedrock of Islamic society is the separation and subjugation of women. At what point do we draw the line?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Banning the Burqa Would be an Affront to our Heritage by Stephen Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PaulV: You assume that the woman wearing the burqa is not exercising free will. In some senses she is not, as indeed the woman who only wears smart clothes and makeup because she has been conditioned to do so by exposure to cultural stereotypes all her life is demonstrating her own conditioning and indoctrination. In both cases you could argue that they are not exercising free will and will not be free until you address these cultural and social pressures on their behaviour. However I would argue that the solution is to educate them and thereby to give them a choice, not to legislate and to take that freedom away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PaulV: You assume that the woman wearing the burqa is not exercising free will. In some senses she is not, as indeed the woman who only wears smart clothes and makeup because she has been conditioned to do so by exposure to cultural stereotypes all her life is demonstrating her own conditioning and indoctrination. In both cases you could argue that they are not exercising free will and will not be free until you address these cultural and social pressures on their behaviour. However I would argue that the solution is to educate them and thereby to give them a choice, not to legislate and to take that freedom away.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Banning the Burqa Would be an Affront to our Heritage by PaulV</title>
		<link>http://www.thinkpolitics.co.uk/blog/2010/01/26/banning-the-burqa-would-be-an-affront-to-our-heritage/comment-page-1/#comment-1163</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the &quot;magnificently simple and irreducible value&quot; that states women are equal? Is the burka not an affront to that liberal ideal? By arguing that a person has a right to wear what they want you defend the ramparts of liberal democracy, only to let patriarchalism, tyranny and fascism stroll in through the front gate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the &#8220;magnificently simple and irreducible value&#8221; that states women are equal? Is the burka not an affront to that liberal ideal? By arguing that a person has a right to wear what they want you defend the ramparts of liberal democracy, only to let patriarchalism, tyranny and fascism stroll in through the front gate.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Remembering Orwell by Angela Frith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela Frith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 19:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article Parallax Brief!  I&#039;ll follow your recommendations. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article Parallax Brief!  I&#8217;ll follow your recommendations. Thank you.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Sem-abrigo Chique &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Is Iraq on the Verge of Collapse? by Salomon Goosen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salomon Goosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Iran advantage is an interesting point and not something I had given any thought to.  Do you think those planning for war considered this?  If not, their lack of foresight is frightening (my lack of foresight can be excused -- I am just an armchair general).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Iran advantage is an interesting point and not something I had given any thought to.  Do you think those planning for war considered this?  If not, their lack of foresight is frightening (my lack of foresight can be excused &#8212; I am just an armchair general).</p>
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		<title>Comment on After the Troop Surge, A Virtual Surge for Afghanistan?` by Richard Lawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An idea worth exploring. We need more imagination and less mechanistic thinking in Government.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://http://greenerblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/cleg-ashdown-afghani-deck-chair.html/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Another possibility is to legitimise the Afghan opium crop and use it to relieve terminal pain in Africa.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An idea worth exploring. We need more imagination and less mechanistic thinking in Government.<br />
<a href="http://http://greenerblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/cleg-ashdown-afghani-deck-chair.html/" rel="nofollow">Another possibility is to legitimise the Afghan opium crop and use it to relieve terminal pain in Africa.</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Dr InflationDove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bank of England by Thomas Byrne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Quantitative easing&#039; is just state-sponsored theft. I&#039;m tempted to start counterfeiting money myself - to save the economy, of course!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Quantitative easing&#8217; is just state-sponsored theft. I&#8217;m tempted to start counterfeiting money myself &#8211; to save the economy, of course!</p>
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